Comments for http://www.rpmministries.org Fri, 19 Mar 2010 21:33:42 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 Comment on A Biblical Counseling Response to Brian McLaren by Bob http://www.rpmministries.org/2010/03/a-biblical-counseling-response-to-brian-mclaren/comment-page-1/#comment-1440 Bob Fri, 19 Mar 2010 21:33:42 +0000 http://www.rpmministries.org/?p=2237#comment-1440 Doreen, Interesting observations. I don't think many of us disagree if the main point is: Christians have been imperfect representatives of Christ. But I think many of us disagree if the main point is: All Christians except the new kind of Christian have been poor representatives and therefore we have to totally start over. Brian contents that he's not saying it's all been bad. However, he doesn't point out anything that's been good. And he does eliminate what Christians have stood for, for over 2,000 years. Bob Doreen, Interesting observations. I don’t think many of us disagree if the main point is: Christians have been imperfect representatives of Christ. But I think many of us disagree if the main point is: All Christians except the new kind of Christian have been poor representatives and therefore we have to totally start over. Brian contents that he’s not saying it’s all been bad. However, he doesn’t point out anything that’s been good. And he does eliminate what Christians have stood for, for over 2,000 years. Bob

]]> Comment on Brian McLaren, I Accept Your Invitation by Bob http://www.rpmministries.org/2010/03/brian-mclaren-i-accept-your-invitation/comment-page-1/#comment-1439 Bob Fri, 19 Mar 2010 21:30:35 +0000 http://www.rpmministries.org/?p=2221#comment-1439 Doreen, Thanks for sharing your perspective. Whether I'm his target audience or not, I still stand by my summary. If Brian truly wants to invite conversation with those who may not agree with him, then it sees uninviting to paint himself as innocent and to paint others who may disagree as heresy-hunters. I happen to disagree with much of what Brian has written. Yet, anyone who has read my 750 blog posts or 400 book reviews, knows I'm not heresy hunter. 98% of all my reviews are favorable. And, even if I'm not his audience, all the more reason for Brian to be fair in his opening remarks. If his audience, as you surmise, are those who agree with him, then they deserve an accurate assessment of those who disagree--rather than a biased assessment that paints all who disagree as heresy hunters. I detect a consistent thread in Brian's writings of playing the "I'm an innocent nice guy" card, while using against others the "you're a judgmental Pharisee" card. It's not true. Bob Doreen, Thanks for sharing your perspective. Whether I’m his target audience or not, I still stand by my summary. If Brian truly wants to invite conversation with those who may not agree with him, then it sees uninviting to paint himself as innocent and to paint others who may disagree as heresy-hunters. I happen to disagree with much of what Brian has written. Yet, anyone who has read my 750 blog posts or 400 book reviews, knows I’m not heresy hunter. 98% of all my reviews are favorable. And, even if I’m not his audience, all the more reason for Brian to be fair in his opening remarks. If his audience, as you surmise, are those who agree with him, then they deserve an accurate assessment of those who disagree–rather than a biased assessment that paints all who disagree as heresy hunters. I detect a consistent thread in Brian’s writings of playing the “I’m an innocent nice guy” card, while using against others the “you’re a judgmental Pharisee” card. It’s not true. Bob

]]> Comment on A Biblical Counseling Response to Brian McLaren by Doreen http://www.rpmministries.org/2010/03/a-biblical-counseling-response-to-brian-mclaren/comment-page-1/#comment-1434 Doreen Fri, 19 Mar 2010 12:16:29 +0000 http://www.rpmministries.org/?p=2237#comment-1434 Pastorbuff, food for thought. When those in the "Emergent Church's" target demographics are polled (those under 30) about Christianity, the Christianity they think of is people like Rev. Fred Phelps of the Westboro Baptist Church or Pat Robertson saying that God struck Haiti with an earthquake due to their voodoo worship. This is due to the overwhelming poor media images of Christianity displayed on TV, youtube, etc., 24 hours a day! Some people will even think of all the wars fought in the name of God and that will turn them off to Christianity. While some might say, "Well those aren't 'real' Christians" or "Come to our church, we're not that type of Christians," over the past 2000 years who could argue the harm that has been done using the name of Christ? (This does not discount all the good but we are not talking about that here.) I think the message that Brian and others is bringing that resonates with people is THAT's not Christianity! Those are man-made and NOT of Christ. Pastorbuff, food for thought. When those in the “Emergent Church’s” target demographics are polled (those under 30) about Christianity, the Christianity they think of is people like Rev. Fred Phelps of the Westboro Baptist Church or Pat Robertson saying that God struck Haiti with an earthquake due to their voodoo worship. This is due to the overwhelming poor media images of Christianity displayed on TV, youtube, etc., 24 hours a day! Some people will even think of all the wars fought in the name of God and that will turn them off to Christianity. While some might say, “Well those aren’t ‘real’ Christians” or “Come to our church, we’re not that type of Christians,” over the past 2000 years who could argue the harm that has been done using the name of Christ? (This does not discount all the good but we are not talking about that here.)

I think the message that Brian and others is bringing that resonates with people is THAT’s not Christianity! Those are man-made and NOT of Christ.

]]> Comment on Brian McLaren, I Accept Your Invitation by Doreen http://www.rpmministries.org/2010/03/brian-mclaren-i-accept-your-invitation/comment-page-1/#comment-1433 Doreen Fri, 19 Mar 2010 12:06:06 +0000 http://www.rpmministries.org/?p=2221#comment-1433 Perhaps Brian's introduction in his book was not so inviting; he has been called worse than a heretic by those who disagree. He's had death threats, he's been called Satan, he's been labeled a communist, etc. He probably also does not expect the bulk of his readers to be those with whom there will likely be little to no theological agreement, even after reading his books. In other words, you're not the target audience! Still, I enjoyed reading this and look forward to continuing the series with you. Perhaps Brian’s introduction in his book was not so inviting; he has been called worse than a heretic by those who disagree. He’s had death threats, he’s been called Satan, he’s been labeled a communist, etc. He probably also does not expect the bulk of his readers to be those with whom there will likely be little to no theological agreement, even after reading his books. In other words, you’re not the target audience! Still, I enjoyed reading this and look forward to continuing the series with you.

]]> Comment on Brian McLaren, I Accept Your Invitation by Ming Soo Hoo http://www.rpmministries.org/2010/03/brian-mclaren-i-accept-your-invitation/comment-page-1/#comment-1432 Ming Soo Hoo Fri, 19 Mar 2010 07:00:36 +0000 http://www.rpmministries.org/?p=2221#comment-1432 Thanks for the very useful blog and I appreciate you keep us inform of the current wave of Christian movement. There are so many so called new wave and diverting us into adopting the secular worldview. Keep up the good work.. Thanks for the very useful blog and I appreciate you keep us inform of the current wave of Christian movement. There are so many so called
new wave and diverting us into adopting the secular worldview. Keep up the good work..

]]> Comment on 100 Top Web Resources for Your Life and Ministry by SERMONJAM http://www.rpmministries.org/2009/11/three-dozen-resources-for-your-life-and-ministry/comment-page-1/#comment-1430 SERMONJAM Fri, 19 Mar 2010 03:33:47 +0000 http://www.rpmministries.org/?p=1070#comment-1430 JOHN PIPER ON MARK DRISCOLL SERMON JAM http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mWVhn9HaRNg JOHN PIPER ON MARK DRISCOLL SERMON JAM

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]]> Comment on Searching for God in the Rubble of an Earthquake by Leonel Krahulec http://www.rpmministries.org/2010/01/searching-for-god-in-the-rubble-of-an-earthquake/comment-page-1/#comment-1428 Leonel Krahulec Thu, 18 Mar 2010 23:38:07 +0000 http://www.rpmministries.org/?p=1683#comment-1428 This is exactly what I was searching for on bing, I guess I got my answer! lol This is exactly what I was searching for on bing, I guess I got my answer! lol

]]> Comment on Responding to Brian McLaren’s Question # 3: The God Question by Bob http://www.rpmministries.org/2010/03/responding-to-brian-mclaren%e2%80%99s-question-3-the-god-question/comment-page-1/#comment-1420 Bob Wed, 17 Mar 2010 13:56:15 +0000 http://www.rpmministries.org/?p=2262#comment-1420 Greg, Thank you for your insightful comments and encouraging words. Yes, by all means feel free to post any of my posts and/or links to your Blog and FB page. I love your Steve Brown quote. What a testimony. Bob Greg, Thank you for your insightful comments and encouraging words. Yes, by all means feel free to post any of my posts and/or links to your Blog and FB page. I love your Steve Brown quote. What a testimony. Bob

]]> Comment on Responding to Brian McLaren’s Question # 3: The God Question by Greg Bailey http://www.rpmministries.org/2010/03/responding-to-brian-mclaren%e2%80%99s-question-3-the-god-question/comment-page-1/#comment-1419 Greg Bailey Wed, 17 Mar 2010 13:30:48 +0000 http://www.rpmministries.org/?p=2262#comment-1419 Dear Bob, I appreciate your take on McLaren. I haven't read much of him...concentrating on what is edifying...but I know much of his thought is mainline liberalism in new hipper clothing and many of our youth are falling for it and its false dichotomy. Thank you for putting it in terms for us who do soul care (I am a home health/hospice chaplain). The view of God is the biggest of all concerns, hence the 1st 2 commandments and Jesus great commandment and your reference to Jeremiah and the other major prophets. Your reference to WDJS is right on. Steve Brown said he was brought to trust the OT when he "fell in love with Jesus" during his liberal doctorate process. May I post your comments to my blog and FB page. Will give you all the credit and refer to RPM so they know and can later refer to the source. Grace To You, Greg Bailey Dear Bob,
I appreciate your take on McLaren. I haven’t read much of him…concentrating on what is edifying…but I know much of his thought is mainline liberalism in new hipper clothing and many of our youth are falling for it and its false dichotomy. Thank you for putting it in terms for us who do soul care (I am a home health/hospice chaplain). The view of God is the biggest of all concerns, hence the 1st 2 commandments and Jesus great commandment and your reference to Jeremiah and the other major prophets.
Your reference to WDJS is right on. Steve Brown said he was brought to trust the OT when he “fell in love with Jesus” during his liberal doctorate process.
May I post your comments to my blog and FB page. Will give you all the credit and refer to RPM so they know and can later refer to the source.
Grace To You,
Greg Bailey

]]> Comment on Responding to Brian McLaren’s Question # 4: The Jesus Question by Derek Weese http://www.rpmministries.org/2010/03/responding-to-brian-mclaren%e2%80%99s-question-4-the-jesus-question/comment-page-1/#comment-1417 Derek Weese Tue, 16 Mar 2010 21:18:21 +0000 http://www.rpmministries.org/?p=2271#comment-1417 Again, this sounds more like feel goodism rather than the truth. It is precisely this sort of thinking that is making (in many ways, but I understand not entirely) the Christian church irrelevant for true change. Better to be politically incorrect and seem harsh and yet be true to God than be kind and loving and be leading people into falsehood. Again, this sounds more like feel goodism rather than the truth. It is precisely this sort of thinking that is making (in many ways, but I understand not entirely) the Christian church irrelevant for true change. Better to be politically incorrect and seem harsh and yet be true to God than be kind and loving and be leading people into falsehood.

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